Caveman Tournaments

[mccleary]

I wanted to ask the board and the association members if there has been any consideration to making one of the two Caveman tournaments a different format. With 2 tournaments at the same center only 3 months apart, it would seem to benefit the majority of bowlers to run something a little different. I know that last year, we had 2 tournaments at Lava within a short amount of time and it seemed we ended up with two tournaments that looked remarkably alike. Similar cut score, mostly the same bowlers bowled well at both tournaments, etc... While I know that changing the shot to something different can be controversial, how about we take a look at a different format?

Doubles tournaments have been hugely successful the past few years, so some kind of doubles format might be a good option. I would also suggest and be an advocate of a regular qualifying followed by a head to head elimination finals with seeding based on qualifying (1 vs 16, 2 vs 15, etc...) Depending on the number of entries, there could be one round of byes like the PBA Sr tour if needed to make the format work. Another option would be an elimination style, where after the cut, all bowlers would bowl 2 games and the top half of the field would advance after each 2 game round. Ex., 24 bowlers make the cut - top 12 bowlers 2-game totals advance after round one, top 6 bowlers 2 game totals of round two, top 3 bowlers of round 3, etc...

I know that the computer program isn't necessarily set up for these type of formats, but they aren't hard at all to run by hand (there is no need to keep running totals) and points and prize funds can be combined and split evenly in a matter of minutes. I am willing to help with these if you want to pursue this.

Thoughts? Feedback?

I just think it would be nice to bowl a different format occasionally instead of two tournaments that just mirror each other if we are going to the same house and bowling on what is likely the same or VERY similar condition.

McCleary

[hammerhead]

I like this idea a lot. I think I like the doubles format the best. I do, however also really like the idea head to head elimination finals! Sounds like fun.

Ryan

[snead]

I liked bowling at lava twice; what about bringing back a nickel bowl stop. that might be fun, similar format to nb dbls........
I hope they're dry.........cause I need 'em to be!!

[mccleary]

My post isn't a complaint about going to any house twice in a year. I just think that if we are going to the same center and bowling on the same house shot in a short time span, that a format change would make the tournaments a little different from each other so we just don't have two tournaments that end up so much alike. I also believe that a lot of bowlers enjoy bowling different formats from time to time. Just my two cents.

[voiceofthevolcano]

J Lo, one of the biggest topics at this year's board meeting was formats/lane conditions. Most of us agree that some change would be nice, but honestly we haven't come up with a solution. And with participation on the rise, we aren't pressured into making changes. You are correct in that the Doubles almost always has the highest turnouts, so that could be an option. Let's keep this thread going and see what others think about this.

[powell300]

Has the North Bend tourney been changed to a singles event? If so, could one of the Caveman stops be the one that does the Doubles draft event? Not sure if bowlers liked that format, but I always thought it was fun. I am with Jason, two stops at the same center with the same format is not ideal.

Dennis Powell

[voiceofthevolcano]

I LIKE IT!!! I too enjoyed the format and miss that aspect of North Bend. I will present it to the board and see what everyone thinks. Feel free to voice your opinions folks.

[thorpedo]

I love the idea! The doubles format of North Bend was what made it unique and exciting, and I know a ton of people would like to see it come back. Regardless of which house it is.

[dcthirteen]

I agree...I like the doubles format, and the draft is always fun. Maybe the second stop at Caveman seems the better choice since the first is following the champ/non-champ event? If so, hopefully players won't see a points issue being the second to last stop, since that was a factor at the North Bend event. Personally, I would look forward to it.

[thumber2]

I like the doubles format for the second Caveman Bowl tournament this season.

[mccleary]

I know this got some discussion earlier in the year, but I was curious if a definite decision was made on this subject? With the 2nd Caveman tournament being next month, it would seem if we are going to change the format, this month would be the time to discuss / announce something. There seemed to be support for making it another doubles tournament (using the old style of singles qualifying format, then drafting partners format). Any more thoughts or discussion about this???

[thorpedo]

Everyone that I've talked to has loved the idea of bringing back the old North Bend format to our 2nd stop at Caveman. Not sure if it's still up for discussion but it's definitely something to consider.